These concerns include:. I see no evidence that System1, the Privacy One Group, or Startpage are violating any of their own policies or laws. In preparation for this article, I asked Startpage to provide answers and clarification on the following items:.
Startpage has not answered any of these questions. I will continue to monitor the situation and update this article and my recommendations based on new information. Startpage is no longer being recommended in the private search engines guide. It has also been removed from the list of Google search alternatives and privacy tools.
Similarly, PrivacyTools. See my updated guide on the best private search engines for the latest recommendations. Whether you want to trust these claims or not is your decision. Sven Taylor is the founder of RestorePrivacy.
With a passion for digital privacy and online freedom, he created this website to provide you with honest, useful, and up-to-date information about online privacy, security, and related topics. His focus is on privacy research, writing guides, testing privacy tools, and website admin.
I cannot detect a pattern in the terms that causes this. Then exploit their data. Otherwise why bother? We apologize for the inconvenience: to prevent possible abuse of our service, your ability to connect to Startpage has been suspended at this time. Thank you for your patience. There are only two things that smell of fish, and one is fish. I started using StartPage last year. As I say, only two things that smell of fish, and one is fish.
Now I have the story about StartPage being taken over by these people I have the suspicion that they are not what they pretend to be. Now maybe I am wrong, but I am not taking the risk when there are other search engines that do not block me because I tighten my settings.
To ensure this, the investment includes covenants that ensure complete control over all privacy-related decisions remains with Startpage and its management team.
There was more evidence that came out after this article was written, I believe. What about the project of Mozilla for its Firefox baby? I heard and red on some places that they wanted to gave it up. I hope they will change their mind if what I heard was true. About your notations, Ex1. Per ex 1. Per ex 2. By the way, thanks for the brief insight about CyberGhost, I am so concerned about so many people out there selling out the nefarious characters which are only interested in the money than they are of humanity.
I am currently keeping caution about Brave since its owners answered a question, leaving us to think they may be open to the highest bidder no matter who m that might be. Runnaroo and gibiru look shady though.
No information on who runs runnaroo, and gibiru apparently expects the user to run a script directly off a google server. No thanks. For the record, PrivacyTools. It took some 6 months:. And the fact that they are legally by contract in control of all privacy aspects of Startpage and are required to notify users of any privacy change. The only remaining question that I have concerns their anonymisation and fuzzing. The diagram make it seem like System1 servers are treated the same as Google Search servers.
Fuzzing should mean that random bits of data are added to each requests we make obviously not to search terms themselves , so it should be harder to link two searches from a single user. They remove IP, but do they replace it with only country and language, or something more precise? System1 gets search terms, but so did Google Search, they always have. We just need to know anonymisation processes from a technical standpoint. For now, I still recommend Startpage because its privacy policy is the best by far.
Only Swisscow. Sorry, the Quora link is not ideal. In the US, it is not as straightforward, for example the breaking of the privacy policy must have caused harm. We send the anonymized search query to Google and return the search results to you. As for location, the more precise it is the harder it should be to claim it is not identifying. But as before System1, it should be remembered that search terms go to Google to retrieve results.
They have a chance to correlate a search for a YouTube video and your arrival on that YouTube link. And I would definitely block anything Google Analytics or Doubleclick related forever, for the same reason, and regardless of search engine.
Otherwise it completely defeats the purpose of using a private search engine. I wonder what the implications of this are for Startmail. You still list this as a viable email alternative. Any thoughts? Have questions? Visit our support section or contact us at support startpage. English This page cannot function without javascript. Please enable javascript and reload the page. Deutsch Diese Seite kann ohne Javascript nicht funktionieren.
Dansk Denne side kan ikke fungere uden javascript. Norsk Denne siden kan ikke fungere uten javascript. Aktivera javascript och ladda om sidan igen. Nederlands Deze pagina kan niet functioneren zonder javascript. IT asked me do I want the extension to change my default search provider. Might be FF 75 though depending on which version you have. I removed Startpage when I found out about this a few weeks ago.
Honestly, their search results since around when the change occurred late ? Maybe Startpage will answer the myriad questions users have; they did a moments notice subredditt for one hour to do so and abandoned it immediately, no answers. Try a system level approach filtering all web requests, not just browser requests, such as AdGuard for windows, mac, etc. If your data can be taken, trust no longer applies so nothing prevents you from trying to stop it.
Just about any privacy policy is going to mention cookies and data collected. There are no ads except for its T-shirts. I like the layout of the results listing. Yippy is based in service to other businesses, so it needs to take its job seriously and not monkey around like StartPage is now doing. I chose Yippy for various reasons some mentioned above. Some may complain about the name, but DuckDuckGo is even worse. I hate advertisers and value privacy considerably, but all this seems like an overreaction to the point that it is suspicious.
On the contrary, Searx is an example of a truly privacy respecting search engine. This is helping Google to maximize the efficiency of their censorship and rankings manipulation that are done arbitrarily according to their business interests meaning, against public interest, against our own interests or worse, used to censor progressive political opposition.
One more deal with the devil. This has been going on since at least Dec. And StartPage is being very unforthcoming about the matter. And an employee quit apparently over the matter. Do you know is it hidden preference or it has no impact? Anonymous, here on Firefox No idea about Waterfox and Pale Moon. Possible issue with B is when you encounter a secured site which calls 3rd-party non-secured servers for, i. Take radio. I use a few browsers and operating systems.
Anyway, I have notice some annoying things in Firefox that many have complained here. I am sorry for typos and off-topic. I can read English, it is not my native language, but writing is difficult. Someone mentioned the about page of Startpage then, until , and now. That, in combination with everything else I read about the not disclosed change until now says enough for me.
I removed the Startpage in Firefox and MetaGer, a German search engine, is now my default search engine:. I have added it to my search engines in the way ShintoPlasm in this tread described. As a side note, but related to this news imo, despite having great praise for Ghacks.
Which I will never click on. It all seems a pattern. But then again internet was never about privacy. Startpage is a no go for me, there is no reason for using it. The problem with searx. Going back a bit in time does anyone remember a search engine called WebCrawler?
It was later acquired by AOL who then sold it to Excite another search engine at the time who maintained it as a seperate search engine. OpenMail was later renamed to System1. According to L. Apparently System1 was previously called Brainjuicer, but was dissolved in October The absurd reactions and witch hunting that has occurred over this is proof that most people on the engineering side of security tech have zero business sense, which is why either they never become executives or their side projects remain small.
Obviously most of them have never read a confidentiality contract. System1 invested to make money, obviously. You can make money by marketing privacy. With this investment, Startpage will be able to scale its influence exponentially, which will more than make up from the losses from the peanut gallery. All true… But nothing is more suspect than DuckDuckGo! Brave also whitelists Twitter and Facebook trackers openly. Expect that finding out the truth is not as easy as trusting an authority.
I noticed I was starting to get extremely targeted ads on startpage, which baffled me. I did actually take their claim of privacy at face value — stupid me. So irritated that company after company is data greedy — ruined it basically.
I will now have to make a full effort of just staying offline. But the ads on startpage are now just so creepy I might as well be on google, bing, yahoo, duckduckgo — all the same line of evil. I cannot detect a pattern in the terms that causes this. Then exploit their data.
Otherwise why bother? We apologize for the inconvenience: to prevent possible abuse of our service, your ability to connect to Startpage has been suspended at this time. Thank you for your patience.
If required, repeat with different search terms until you get one that is acceptable. Search for a different search term, until you get the error message.
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Search for:. Startpage Search owner changes raise serious questions. Martin Brinkmann. Related content. Surfshark VPN Review: good performance, good options. Free Download Manager removes support for YouTube downloads. Brave Search is now the default search engine for new users in 5 regions in Brave Browser. IPVanish vs. Previous Post: « Brave Browser 1. Comments Anonymous said on November 16, at am. Thanks for the info!
Just titles and links would be enough : Thank you. Anon said on November 18, at am. Anonymous said on November 18, at am. Anon I have looked a lot. If you know any, please share with us. Bottom Line: Not everybody can keep up with dozens of different tech sites and subreddits and specific blogs. The need is definitely there. Jody Thornton said on November 19, at am. Anonymous: I say go Google that info yourself. Anonymous said on November 19, at pm. I feel like this is not that much to ask, is it?
Martin: Would you like to weigh in? ZeN said on November 16, at am. Mmmm very suspicious indeed, thanks for the heads-up Martin. DDG is my choice for now. Tarmin said on November 16, at am. No truer words have been spoken. Money talks, bullshit walks…. Ed said on November 16, at am. Cinikal said on November 16, at am.
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